Haapanen from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola

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TerriB
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Haapanen from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola

Viesti Kirjoittaja TerriB » 14.01.2014 09:46

Hi. I have just joined this forum and my direct ancester, my grandfather, Viktor Vaino Haapanen, (12 Nov 1896 - 1952) from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola (I believe that place is now called Kalanti) came to Pt Lincoln in South Australia in 1927. I think, not sure, that 2 of his brothers, Kustaa Hjalmar Haapanen Nurmi- born 1891 and Frans Eino Haapanen - born 1894 migrated to America. Their parents were Samual Konrad Haapanen (born 1857)and Maria Wilhelmina Manderos(born 1868 ) I am at the moment really interested in any information about the brothers who went to USA and also about their parents.
I do not speak Finnish...sadly...having been born and living in Australia

P.s....nice to meet you all
Terri from Australia

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Re: Haapanen from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola

Viesti Kirjoittaja jani » 14.01.2014 16:58

I'll add the info I gave Terri on Ancestry, so no one has to look it up again. :)



Here are 3 pages from Kalanti (formerly Uusikirkko TL), Pyrrilä village and Runola house, where Samuel Konrad Samuelsson Haapanen was a lodger. Unfortunately they only open for FFHA (Finland's Family History Association) members.
Years 1881-1890:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/j ... 1&pnum=402

1891-1900:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/j ... 2&pnum=394

1901-1910:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut/j ... 3&pnum=447

Samuel was born 12 NOV 1857. His first wife, Eva Kristina Björn, was born 24 DEC 1857 and died 3 JUL 1885. They had a son, Johan Konrad b. 18 JUN 1881 d. 12 MAY 1882 and a daughter, Aina Wilhelminä b. 2 APR 1883. Samuel remarried, this time to Maria Wilhelmina Manderos, b. 5 FEB 1868 in Laitila d. 11 JUN 1902. The couple had 5 sons: Samuel Werner b. 7 JAN 1888 d. 12 OCT 1891, Johan (Juho) Nestor b. 27 FEB 1890 d. 10 OCT 1891, Kustaa Hjalmar b. 16 NOV 1891, Frans Eino b. 27 MAY 1894 and Viktor Väinö b. 12 NOV 1896. Samuel married again, this time to Maria Otteliana Matiaksentytär b. 30 MAR 1876 in Uusikaupunki (land parish). There are no children listed for the 3rd marriage.

Hopefully this helps track down the siblings after 1910.
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Re: Haapanen from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola

Viesti Kirjoittaja TerriB » 15.01.2014 02:42

thanks, Jani....you are very efficient! Jani, those are obviously from cencus records (1881 - 1891 - 1901) but how do I find more of them - or can I search by a persons name?.. I can get to church records etc. I am quite new to this.....
Terri

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Re: Haapanen from Uusikirkko TL, Pyrrila, Runola

Viesti Kirjoittaja jani » 15.01.2014 11:59

The communion books are more than just census Records. They usually cover a 10 year period and list the inhabitants of each farm by family. Usually the first name on the page is the head of the house, followed by his wife and then their children. Below them are hired hands and maids and on the bottom usually lodgers. This varies from parish to parish, but once you familiarize yourself with an area you get used to the books fairly quickly. The names are followed by birthdate and place and where they came from (GB/VK/WK means "old book", meaning they were moved from the previous book to the new one, a year and a page number give you the page in the current book they came from and a year and place name gives you the parish they moved from). Then you have vaccinations, language and reading skills and on the "next page" the actual communion dates. This is followed by notes and finally the "move out" column, which tells you where the person went. This could have NB/UK ("new book") and page number, a death date, a year and page number (for the current book) or a date and a Place if they moved to a different parish. If there's nothing marked that usually means they stayed at the same farm and can be found there in the next book.

If the moving markings were poorly kept, it might be difficult to find people, since the books aren't indexed by name. In the newer books (births, marriages, deaths, moves) they usually list the page number with the event so finding the family in question is easy, but even in the older books they are more than likely to list the farm name so that it's relatively easy to find, especially since most of the books in the database have been indexed by village and farm name. Since the member database has a search function, the easiest way to pull up all the Runola pages is to go to the Kalanti page:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... p?plid=591

And then type Runola in the search field. It'll give you a list of all the pages that have Runola in the comment column. Naturally this only works with books that have been indexed. To follow moves to different farms you need to open the index for that book (there's a link on top of the page) and find the page that they moved to/from and so on. So to follow Aino Wilhelmina from the last link I gave (shows that she moved to page 466 in 1903) you open the index:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... ?bid=19523

And then go to image 443 (page 466):
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 3&pnum=443

There you'll find Aino with her husband and their 3 children (plus the one she had out of wedlock). Similarly, if you want to see where the husband, Juho, came from you'd go back to the index and open page 122:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 3&pnum=117

From there you move to the older book, page 643:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 2&pnum=602

And so on. I like to follow them all the way to the first communion book they're listed in to make sure that the parents listed in the later books aren't actually stepfathers or stepmothers. In his case here's the first book:
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 20&pnum=84

In this case the parents really are the ones listed on page 122 earlier. Normally I would check the birth listing in the babtisms as well, but the ones from 1877 aren't online yet (although they have been digitized already, so hopefully they'll be online soon).

I hope this helped a little bit. I think you'll find that Finnish genealogy is extremely easy (as long as the records haven't been destroyed) since pretty much everyone's life was recorded from birth to death with moved and all thanks to the church records.
----- Jani Koski -----

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