Help reading church record
Help reading church record
Hi,
I am trying to understand what the following church record notes for my relatives. Here is the record I am interested in : https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 7&pnum=126
I am interested in the 4th line - Anna Greta Axelsdtr born 1784. What is the word and what does it mean that follows the year1784 on that line? What does the 'h' in front of her name mean? It appears she moved there in 1811, is that correct?
On the same page is my 3rd great granpa Alexander Eriksson born 1780 on the last line. What does it say after the year 1780 on that line?
I can't figure out when they married. Their first son was born in 1807.
I appreciate any help provided. Thank you.
I am trying to understand what the following church record notes for my relatives. Here is the record I am interested in : https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 7&pnum=126
I am interested in the 4th line - Anna Greta Axelsdtr born 1784. What is the word and what does it mean that follows the year1784 on that line? What does the 'h' in front of her name mean? It appears she moved there in 1811, is that correct?
On the same page is my 3rd great granpa Alexander Eriksson born 1780 on the last line. What does it say after the year 1780 on that line?
I can't figure out when they married. Their first son was born in 1807.
I appreciate any help provided. Thank you.
Re: Help reading church record
HI,
I have another church record that I would like help interpreting.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 2&pnum=123
On the 2nd page, 4th from the bottom is my great grandpa Niklas born on July 10. Can you interpret what is written for him? My guess is that no father is listed. Is that correct? Is there a location or page number that references the corresponding confirmation book for the monther?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards,
Sue
I have another church record that I would like help interpreting.
https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 2&pnum=123
On the 2nd page, 4th from the bottom is my great grandpa Niklas born on July 10. Can you interpret what is written for him? My guess is that no father is listed. Is that correct? Is there a location or page number that references the corresponding confirmation book for the monther?
Thank you for your help.
Best regards,
Sue
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Re: Help reading church record
Anna Greta Axelsdotter b. 1784 Kuivasmäki - the name is old and better name is Petäjävesi.
Here is more: https://www.geni.com/people/Akseli-Tupa ... 6901624009
Alexander Ericsson b. 1780, he is coming from Keuruu med attestation 20.6.1812.
https://www.geni.com/people/Aleksanteri ... 1909877112
Here is more: https://www.geni.com/people/Akseli-Tupa ... 6901624009
Alexander Ericsson b. 1780, he is coming from Keuruu med attestation 20.6.1812.
https://www.geni.com/people/Aleksanteri ... 1909877112
Maisa Taipale
Helsinki
Helsinki
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Re: Help reading church record
Niklas is born without any facts about his father.
Maisa Taipale
Helsinki
Helsinki
Re: Help reading church record
1) h Anna Greta Axelsdr 1784 Kuivasmäki
h = hustru/ wife
Anna Greta was the wife of Johan Josephsson (above), who died 25.2.1813; Saarijärvi Death Records 1788-1817 (AP I C:1) 1812 November - December, 1813 Januarius - Martii ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 4&pnum=112 .
Last will of Johan Josephsson; Saarijärvi Probate Records 1810-1825 (AP I Jee:2) edellinen jatkuu, 7.2.1813 (testamentti) Johan Josephsson & Anna Greta Axelsdr ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 2&pnum=125 .
Saarijärvi Probate Records 1810-1825 (AP I Jee:2) 13.3.1813 Johan Josephsson Kontimäki ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 2&pnum=128 .
Anna Greta married again 14.8.1814; Saarijärvi Marriage Records 1788-1854 (AP I C:1) 1814 Januarii-November ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 09&pnum=41 .
Saarijärvi Communion Book 1814-1820 (AP I Aa:8) Sivu 136 Pääjärvi Mahlu Harju No 11, Kontinmäki ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 8&pnum=139 .
(The son born in 1807 is from the previous marriage of Alexander Ericsson, with Valborg Johansdotter.)
2) Niklas , oäkta/illegitimate, ...
... mor Pig [piga] Qp [qvinnsperson] Lena Mattsdotter (26). Tourula Survo p. 50
... mother handsmaid "fallen woman" Lena Mattsdr (age 26). Tourula Survo p. 50;
Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 50-51 Jyväskylä by Tourula, No 5 Survo WanhaSurvo, Mannisenaho torp, No 6 Kylmälaks Keljo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=29
Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Communion Book 1854-1868 (AP I Aa:7) Sivu 43 Jyväskylä by, No 5 Survo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 21&pnum=44 .
Best regards, Birgit S.
h = hustru/ wife
Anna Greta was the wife of Johan Josephsson (above), who died 25.2.1813; Saarijärvi Death Records 1788-1817 (AP I C:1) 1812 November - December, 1813 Januarius - Martii ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 4&pnum=112 .
Last will of Johan Josephsson; Saarijärvi Probate Records 1810-1825 (AP I Jee:2) edellinen jatkuu, 7.2.1813 (testamentti) Johan Josephsson & Anna Greta Axelsdr ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 2&pnum=125 .
Saarijärvi Probate Records 1810-1825 (AP I Jee:2) 13.3.1813 Johan Josephsson Kontimäki ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 2&pnum=128 .
Anna Greta married again 14.8.1814; Saarijärvi Marriage Records 1788-1854 (AP I C:1) 1814 Januarii-November ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 09&pnum=41 .
Saarijärvi Communion Book 1814-1820 (AP I Aa:8) Sivu 136 Pääjärvi Mahlu Harju No 11, Kontinmäki ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 8&pnum=139 .
(The son born in 1807 is from the previous marriage of Alexander Ericsson, with Valborg Johansdotter.)
2) Niklas , oäkta/illegitimate, ...
... mor Pig [piga] Qp [qvinnsperson] Lena Mattsdotter (26). Tourula Survo p. 50
... mother handsmaid "fallen woman" Lena Mattsdr (age 26). Tourula Survo p. 50;
Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 50-51 Jyväskylä by Tourula, No 5 Survo WanhaSurvo, Mannisenaho torp, No 6 Kylmälaks Keljo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=29
Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Communion Book 1854-1868 (AP I Aa:7) Sivu 43 Jyväskylä by, No 5 Survo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 21&pnum=44 .
Best regards, Birgit S.
Re: Help reading church record
Thank you to all for the information. This is all very helpful.
Best regards,
Sue
Best regards,
Sue
Re: Help reading church record
Hello again,
I have found a few more questions.
IN this church record, https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 36&pnum=17, Mother of Nikolas, Lena is the 3rd entry from the bottom. She now is listed with the last name (Surname) Seppanen which is the last name Nikolas used in the US. Are we able to determine why that name now appears?
Lena did have another child in 1869, Amanda. Here is the link to her birth record. Does this list a father for Amanda? https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 2&pnum=160. Amanda is the 6th record on the first page. I did see that Amanda died at 2 years old in 1871.
Thanks again for your help.
Best Regards,
Sue
I have found a few more questions.
IN this church record, https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 36&pnum=17, Mother of Nikolas, Lena is the 3rd entry from the bottom. She now is listed with the last name (Surname) Seppanen which is the last name Nikolas used in the US. Are we able to determine why that name now appears?
Lena did have another child in 1869, Amanda. Here is the link to her birth record. Does this list a father for Amanda? https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 2&pnum=160. Amanda is the 6th record on the first page. I did see that Amanda died at 2 years old in 1871.
Thanks again for your help.
Best Regards,
Sue
Re: Help reading church record
No idea why the surname was Seppänen. (In Finnish seppä means smith/blacksmith.)
- p. 24; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 24-25 Jyväskylä by Alakylä, No 2 Rauhaniemi, Suntia torp ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=16
- p. 37; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 36-37 Jyväskylä by Alakylä, No 4 Kekkola eller Hinkkala, No 4 Kekkola ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=22 / Viitattu 08.05.2025
- p. 50; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 50-51 Jyväskylä by Tourula, No 5 Survo WanhaSurvo, Mannisenaho torp, No 6 Kylmälaks Keljo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=29
Look above: Before Niklas was born, there was also an illegitimate daughter: Ida Wilhelmina b. 21.12.1861; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 52&pnum=85 ,
died 30.6.1864; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 66&pnum=11 .
Amanda was also illegitimate.
Best regards, Birgit S.
- p. 24; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 24-25 Jyväskylä by Alakylä, No 2 Rauhaniemi, Suntia torp ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=16
- p. 37; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 36-37 Jyväskylä by Alakylä, No 4 Kekkola eller Hinkkala, No 4 Kekkola ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=22 / Viitattu 08.05.2025
- p. 50; Jyväskylä maaseurakunta Preconfirmation Records 1854-1866 (AP I Ab:7) Sivu 50-51 Jyväskylä by Tourula, No 5 Survo WanhaSurvo, Mannisenaho torp, No 6 Kylmälaks Keljo ; SSHY http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_e ... 46&pnum=29
Look above: Before Niklas was born, there was also an illegitimate daughter: Ida Wilhelmina b. 21.12.1861; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 52&pnum=85 ,
died 30.6.1864; https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_ ... 66&pnum=11 .
Amanda was also illegitimate.
Best regards, Birgit S.
Re: Help reading church record
Thank you!
Best Regards,
Sue
Best Regards,
Sue